Podcasts

March 2 Episode 30: Marc Headley “The BFG”

Marc is the author of a wonderful book, Blown For Good, a whistleblower and an activist. He has a phenomenal memory and a great sense of humor. We cover a lot of ground with him from the Int Base and David Miscavige to the Aftermath Foundation and the Rinder bobblehead.

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Blown For Good

Marc Headley’s brilliant book about his life and escape from the international headquarters of scientology.

The Aftermath S1 Ep5: Golden Era

We traveled to Denver to talk to the Headleys and had a run in with some PI’s

The Aftermath S3 Ep8: Gilman Springs Road

The Headleys helped us understand the international base of scientology

The Aftermath Foundation

Home page of the Aftermath Foundation which helps people who want to or have left scientology

The Rinder bobblehead

The Rinder bobblehead raises funds for the Aftermath Foundation

The SP bracelet

The SP bracelet — available for Special People — also raises money for the Aftermath Foundation

HBO's Going Clear

Alex Gibney’s Emmy-winning HBO documentary

February 23 Episode 29: Journalist Tony Ortega

Leah and Mike talk with Tony, who over his decades of reporting on scientology has become the most expert reporter in the world on the subject. He has a daily blog about scientology, wrote an excellent book about Paulette Cooper, the poster child for scientology Fair Game. Tony and his family have been subjected to Fair Game campaigns by scientology since the 90’s.

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The Unbreakable Miss Lovely

If you have not yet read this book, do so. It is the remarkable account of the most outrageous Fair Game campaign against a Holocaust survivor and journalist.

Leah Remini Leaving Scientology 2013

Tony’s story breaking the news of Leah leaving scientology

The chapter from Troublemaker not in the book

Tony published a chapter that did not appear in Leah’s book about Tom Cruise

More on scientology "Religious Arbitration"

The latest in a series of articles about scientology “religious arbitration” — it contains links to the earlier articles.

Intelligence Principle

The writing by Hubbard that describes framing enemies to cost them their jobs…

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February 16 Episode 28: Cultbusting Attorney Ford Greene

Leah and Mike talk to Ford, the former Moonie who became a lawyer to fight cults. He has participated in some of the most important anti-cult litigation. The discussion covers the Fair Game assaults he has endured, the army of high-priced lawyers he fought and how best to deal with scientology in the legal arena.

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Moonwebs: Journey into the Mind of a Cult
Molko v. Holy Spirit Association

“The state clearly has a compelling interest in preventing its citizens from being deceived into submitting unknowingly to such a potentially dangerous process.”

Wollersheim Court of Appeal opinion

“…should any church seek to resurrect the inquisition in this country under a claim of free religious expression, can anyone doubt the constitutional authority of an American government to halt the torture and executions? And can anyone seriously question the right of the victims of our hypothetical modern day inquisition to sue their tormentors for any injuries—physical or psychological—they sustained?”  

Wollersheim Anti-SLAPP decision

“When one party to a lawsuit continuously and unsuccessfully uses the litigation process to bludgeon the opponent into submission, those actions must be closely scrutinized for constitutional implications.”

Church of Spiritual Technology v. United States

“Real control is exercised less formally, but more tangibly, through an unincorporated association, the Sea Organization, more commonly referred to as the Sea Org.”

February 9 Episode 27: Jon Atack — OG Scientology Whistleblower

Leah and Mike talk all things scientology and Fair Game with one of the most well-informed former scientologist whistleblowers. Jon has spent decades studying and exposing scientology brainwashing and abuse and has fascinating insights on so much.

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Jon's YouTube channel

Contains many interviews Jon has done, including 3 fairly recent ones with Mike

A Piece of Blue Sky

Joon’s seminal work on scientology.

Scientology: the Cult of Greed

Jon’s introductory book for those unfamiliar with scientology

Opening Minds

Jon’s newest book, available later this month

Barefaced Messiah

Russell Miller’s superb unauthorized biography of L. Ron Hubbard

Intelligent Disobedience

Jon recommends this book by Ira Chaleff

Shattered Assumptions

Recommended by Jon

Take Back Your Life

Further recommended reading

February 2 Episode 26: Phil Jones — The Man Behind The Billboard

Phil Jones (and his charming wife Willie) created the “Call Me” billboards after trying to reach their disconnected children, Mike and Emily. We cover a lot of ground — what happened that caused them to leave scientology, their efforts to reach their children, the LAPD, scientology’s Fair Game intimidation tactics, how scientology made them an offer that couldn’t refuse — but they did, and the realities of family life in scientology.

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Phil and Willie's billboard
A family destroyed

Son Mike, Willie, Phil and daughter Emily in happier times

Missing Person Poster
Media at the billboard unveiling
January 26 Episode 25: Whistleblower Valeska Guider Paris

We talk to long term whistleblower Valeska Guider Paris about being raised in scientology, the abuses she suffered as a child in the Sea Org, being held prisoner on the scientology ship Freewinds, the RPF and much more

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Stonelands in England

The Sea Org property where Valeska lived as a child

Scientology High Crimes

Some of the “High Crimes” of scientology covering reporting to the police

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New Hope for Justice

The final chapter of Hubbard’s “Intro to Scientology Ethics” book laying out his views of police, FBI, Courts and justice in society

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The Betrayal Bond

A book recommended by Leah

Marion Pouw

One of Miscavige’s henchwomen sent after ex-Sea Org members, seen here in a smear video targeting Ron Miscavige

January 19 Episode 24: Author, Activist and Icon Kate Bornstein

Leah and Mike talk with author, actor, activist and icon Kate Bornstein about homophobia and transphobia in scientology, how she lost her family to disconnection, Fair Game and how scientology seeks to “pray the gay away.”

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Kate's website
Kate's books

They are all available at her website

Lt. Al Bornstein

In the 1970’s in the Sea Organization of scientology

Scientology Homophobia

An earlier article on Mike Rinder’s blog with all the details on Hubbard and scientology beliefs and practices

Quote from DMSMH

Hubbard’s statement in Dianetics the Modern Science of Mental Health

Quote from Science of Survival

Hubbard about disposing of people quietly and without sorrow

Quote from Science of Survival

Hubbard lauding a Venezuelan dictator for “collecting and destroying all the beggars…”

The Tone Scale

Hubbard’s Tone Scale — 1.1 is the smiling man with the knife behind his back

South Park Trapped in the Closet

The famous episode revealing scientology’s true beliefs

Kate on Twitter (@KateBornstein)
January 12 Episode 23: Blogger and Activist Stefani Hutchison

Leah and Mike talk to Stefani — never a scientologist — about her effective advocacy against scientology abuses and her example of what anyone can do to take an active role in ending the pain and suffering that scientology causes so many.

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Confront and Shatter

Stefani’s website exposing the lies of scientology.

January 5 Episode 22: Geoff Levin, Musician
Leah and Mike talk to musician Geoff Levin about his decades in scientology, his role in the formation of Celebrity Centre, and how scientology tore apart his successful band, damaged his mental health and wrecked his family.
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Geoff's Band People! on American Bandstand

Geoff’s band had a hit record before scientology disconnection policy destroyed it

The early years of Celebrity Centre

Geoff was an integral part of the formation of Celebrity Centre

The Auditor magazine

People! were a big “get” for scientology

Tony Ortega on Geoff's story

This includes a link to an interview with Chris Shelton

Brothers Broken Film

Geoff is making a movie about his life

YouTube Channel

Geoff’s music on YouTube

December 22 Episode 21: Listener Questions Part 3

Leah and Mike answer a wide variety of questions from listeners.

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Miscavige "Planetary Bullbait" briefing

Scientology leader offers his views on dealing with the COVID-19 pandemic

Scientology Deaths and Suicides

An earlier blog post concerning scientology beliefs about illness and disease

Scientology Healing

Another blog post about scientology beliefs on healing

Sea Org members breaking COVID protocols
Scientology PR efforts on pandemic
Scientology Covid bailout money
Dianetics cures illnesses
The 7 year old girl
The Lynne Patton story

Lynne Patton, who worked in the White House, claimed Donald Trump was going to rescind scientology’s tax exempt status

Former Florida AG Pam Bondi - scientology shill
December 15 Episode 20: Jonestown Survivor Capt. Yulanda Williams
Leah and Mike talk with Jonestown survivor and SFO PD Captain Yulanda Williams about her story, the parallels to scientology and how to better equip law enforcement to deal with cults.
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Capt. Yulanda Williams SFO PD
Jim Jones

Leader of the People’s Temple

Congressman Leo Ryan

Congressman Ryan traveled to Guyana to investigate Jonestown and was murdered by members of the People’s Temple

December 8 Episode 19: Christie Collbran Rinder

Leah and Mike talk to Mike’s wife, Christie, about being raised in scientology, disconnection, Fair Game and what life is like today.

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NY Times Article

Christie was featured on the front page of the Sunday New York Times in a story about her disconnection.

Christie on the Today Show
Christie on AC 360

AC 360 Part 4 of his History of Violence series. Christie’s segment begins at about 6:35

"Freedom" Mag's Jim Lynch

Lynch in action at LAX — go to my blog mikerindersblog.org for an understanding of the 3 videos about Lynch

Jim Lynch in Tarpon Springs

Lynch ambush outside restaurant in Tarpon Springs — go to my blog mikerindersblog.org for an understanding of the 3 videos about Lynch

Jim Lynch again following in LA

Lynch following us in Los Angeles — go to my blog mikerindersblog.org for an understanding of the 3 videos about Lynch

The Story of a Scientology Spy

Christie’s account of the PI sent to infiltrate our lives

Bert Leahy comes forward

Hire videographer Bert Leahy comes clean about scientology’s Fair Game practices

An Open Letter to My Family

This on the homepage at mikerindersblog.org

Justice4Mom

The scientology smear website

Azhlynne's Blog

Countering Justice4Mom with facts and the truth

Buddha Belly Birth

Christie’s Doula business she built from nothing

A Family Portrait

We talk about Shane and Jack quite a bit. This shot is a few years old, but it captures their personalities well. They’re a lot bigger now.

November 24 Episode 18: Mary Kahn from The Aftermath

Leah and Mike welcome Mary Kahn to talk about her experience reaching the top of the scientology “Bridge to Total Freedom,” disconnection, scientology’s view of psychiatry and much more.

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Hy Levy in Tampa Bay Times

Former fundraiser Hy Levy spills the beans on what life as a full time SO “registrar” is like

7 year old girl passionate kiss

Hubbard’s bizarre statement in Dianetics that a 7 year old should not find anything wrong with a passionate kiss from a man

What is Solo NOTs (OT 7)

Former senior scientology executive describes the penultimate level on the scientology Bridge

Between Lives Implants

The Hubbard “technology” of how your memories of previous lifetimes are erased

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Scientology on psychiatry

A blog post quoting from some of Hubbard’s most outrageous statements claiming psychiatry is the root of all evil on earth.

November 17 Episode 17: Former Sea Org Executive Claire Headley

The Ex-RTC executive talks about life at scientology’s international headquarters and working with David Miscavige, why scientologists lie, Fair Game and much, much more.

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Blown For Good
The White Female RTC Reps

The almost all female, all white, hand-selected representatives of David Miscavige

SP Declare Claire Headley

Scientology no longer publishes these SP declare orders, they are now kept hidden from view.

Claire Headley's Freeloader Bill
McShane's Report to RCSO

President RTC, Warren McShane, makes damaging admissions to RCSO while trying to get them to pursue a blown SO member

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Lying in Miscavige's Bunker

Marty Rathbun’s post about Warren McShane the professional liar

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RCSO Report on Marc Headley Escape

The report following the attempt to hunt down Marc Headley after his escape from Gold.

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Why Do Scientologists Lie?

Posting from mikerindersblog.org

Scientology's Lying Denials

Posting from mikerindersblog.org

2009 FBI Investigation Summary

Excerpts from the 2009 FBI Investigation summary

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Excerpt Sentencing Memorandum

Excerpt from the DOJ Sentencing Memorandum in US v. Mary Sue Hubbard et al

South Park Trapped in the Closet
AC 360 History of Violence

Anderson Cooper’s series of shows about violence in scientology

November 10 Episode 16: Jehovah’s Witness Whistleblower Lloyd Evans

Leah and Mike talk to Lloyd about the similarities between scientology and the JW’s and how the JW’s have grown more scientology-like in their Fair Game-style attacks on those who expose their abuses.

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The Martyrdom of Jerod Septer

The video Lloyd refers to of the child who died due to his parents refusal to allow a blood transfusion

The Reluctant Apostate

Lloyd’s first book

Escape from Jehovah's Witnesses

Lloyd’s second book

JW Survey.org
The Reluctant Apostate website
November 3 Episode 15: Former President Narconon, Luke Catton

Leah and Mike cover a wide range of topics related to Narconon: including scientology’s involvement, the effectiveness of the program and the Fair Gaming Luke has been subjected to.

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Public Image Policy Letter

Hubbard telling scientology to infiltrate groups in society to create “goodwill”

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Have You Told All?

Luke’s first book

Reconnection

Luke’s second book

Scientology Front Groups

Wikipedia entry, though it omits Freedom Ethics Watch, STAND, Freedom Magazine, Youth for Human Rights and Drug Free Marshalls.

 

The Danger of Niacin

Article from Mikerindersblog.org concerning the Purification program and use of large doses of niacin

Narconons are Scientology

David Miscavige’s diagram showing the relationship between a local scientology org and Narconon

Luke with David Miscavige

Luke with David Miscavige at Narconon Arrowhead. Also in the picture between him and Miscavige are Rena Weinberg (former President of ABLE Int), Laurie Zurn (former head of ABLE Int) as well as Gary Smith, head of Narconon Arrowhead.

Freedom mag Posse of Lunatics

The publication that caused so many to begin questioning scientology and its Fair Game — still available on their website.

October 27 Episode 14: Listener Questions Part 2

The questions this week include: Why is scientology popular with dentists? What happened to Pat and Annie Broeker? And much more.

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The L. Ron Hubbard "Departure" Event

David Miscavige and Pat Broeker brief the scientology world on the shore story they concocted about the death of L. Ron Hubbard.

Leah's List of Books

The list of recommended reading from Leah to help heal yourself after being in a cult.

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October 20 Episode 13: Listener Questions Part 1

Leah and Mike answer questions from listeners: from scientology beliefs to the 411 on Leah’s nails, we cover a lot of ground.

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Handling Past-Life Auditing

How scientology handles those who claim they had scientology auditing in past lives.

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Steps A - E

The steps dictated by Hubbard to return to “good standing” after you have been declared a Suppressive Person

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October 13 Episode 12: Clearwater City Councilman Mark Bunker

Mark Bunker has been a lightning rod for scientology Fair Game for more than 20 years. Now he is elected to the City Council of scientology’s spiritual headquarters.

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Clearwater property grab

Tampa Bay Times reporting on scientology buying up property in Clearwater

Clearwater property update

Tracey McManus updates her earlier story about the scientology properties remaining empty

Scientology fake "Economic Impact"

I analyze the propaganda put out by scientology about their economic and political clout in Clearwater

Mark Bunker elected

Mark Bunker beats scientology stalking horse in the City Council election

Continued Fair Gaming of Bunker

Scientology continues to harass Bunker with relentless and ridiculous demands

October 6 Episode 11: “The Vow’s” Mark Vicente

Leah and Mike talk to Mark Vicente about the HBO documentary series, The Vow, the similarities with Scientology and common themes of high control groups.

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The Vow on HBO
September 29 Episode 10: Attorney Ray Jeffrey Taking on Scientology in the Courtroom
Attorney Ray Jeffrey talks about scientology Fair Game campaigns and legal tactics and what happened with the Rathbun case.
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Janet Reitman's Inside Scientology
Debbie Cook's lawsuit
Settlement of Debbie Cook lawsuit
My blog post about the case
Ray's Clients Paul Marrick and Greg Arnold
Marty Rathbun meets PI's
PI Lawsuit settled
Rathbun Lawsuit
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Anti-SLAPP decision
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Texas Appellate Court decision
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Rathbun house deed
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Marty Rathbun Scientology Spokesman
September 22 Episode 9: Author of “Fair Game”, Australian Investigative Journalist Steve Cannane

Steve Cannane joins Leah and Mike to talk about his book, Fair Game and his experiences reporting on scientology and tracing the history of scientology’s most notorious policies.

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Fair Game
Lateline Scarlett Hanna

Steve Cannane on Australian national TV show Lateline reporting on the abuses of Scarlett Hanna, daughter of Australian scientology president Vicki Hanna

Lateline Carmen Rainer

Steve exposes child sexual abuse

Lateline Valeska Paris

Steve Cannane reports on Valeska Paris imprisonment on the Freewinds

4 Corners -- The Ex-files

The Quinten McDermott scientology expose

Commodore's Messenger part 1

The first book by Janis Gillham/Grady

Commodore's Messenger Part 2

The second book detailing the history of the Sea Org

HCO Manual of Justice

“People attack scientology: I never forget it, always even the score.” L. Ron Hubbard

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September 15 Episode 8: Fair Gaming the Scientology President’s Ex-wife
Karen de LaCarriere, ex-wife of Scientology President Heber Jentzsch, discusses the tragic death of their only child, Alexander, and the Fair Game she has had to endure.
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Karen's Surviving Scientology YouTube channel
Jeffrey's Scientology Money Project blog
Hubbard Policy "Intelligence Principles"

Hubbard describes finding “buttons” and what people are seeking to protect and using that for restraint.

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Hubbard policy "Counter Attack Tactics"

Hubbard describes costing “enemies” their jobs.

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Some of the grotesque smear sites

Scientology smear sites on Karen de la Carriere — financed by tax exempt money

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September 8 Episode 7: Emmy and Oscar Winner Alex Gibney
The legendary documentary filmmaker talks to Leah and Mike about making Going Clear and the Fair Game he has been subjected to. He provides insight into how scientology is different from other organizations he has tackled and what the government should be doing about it.
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Lawrence Wright's Going Clear

The book Alex Gibney’s HBO documentary was based on.

Going Clear: The HBO Documentary
Scientology's ad in NYT & LAT

Scientology placed an ad decrying the documentary before they had even seen it.

Scientology smears

This is a small selection of the smears on Alex Gibney by scientology

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Alex Gibney's LA Times Editorial
September 1 Episode 6: The Leader’s Father is Fair Gamed

Leader of Scientology’s father, Ron Miscavige, talks to Leah and Mike about how he has been Fair Gamed. Nobody is immune from Hubbard’s tactics and policies.

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Ruthless: Scientology, My Son David Miscavige, and Me
Ron Miscavige's podcast website
LA Times story
Where did the documents go?

A detailed explanation of the PI evidence that was “vanished”

August 25 Episode 5: The History of Fair Game

Leah and Mike discuss the origins of Fair Game and what prompted L. Ron Hubbard to seek to “utterly destroy” those he named as enemies. They cover what they have experienced and continue to experience, despite Scientology claiming Fair Game has been canceled.

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Dealing with Critics of Scientology - The L. Ron Hubbard Playbook

The L. Ron Hubbard documents that detail Fair Game

L. Ron Hubbard and Psychiatry

Hubbard’s views on psychiatry and why they became his “enemy”

Operation Snow White

Hubbard’s plan which ultimately resulted in the conviction of 11 senior scientologists for espionage against the US Govt

US v. Mary Sue Hubbard et al Stipulation of Evidence

Excerpts from the legal filing in the criminal prosecution case

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US v Mary Sue Hubbard et al Sentencing Memorandum

Excerpts from the legal filing in the criminal prosecution case

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Mike Rinder: Lady Killer

My blog posting concerning the “Doctor Parking Lot Incident”

Scientology's Latest Lie About Me

A second posting concerning the “Doctor Parking Lot Incident” and subsequent lies about the “assault”

The Paremedics Report on Cathy Bernardini

Jeffrey Augustine’s blog post dissecting the lies in scientology’s claims about the “assault” on Mike Rinder’s ex-wife

A List of Fair Game Operations
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The PI's Who Surveiled Mike Rinder in Denver

THese PI’s were paid in excess of $10 million over a decade to conduct covert surveilance

The Truth Rundown

The groundbreaking series by St Pete Times reporters Joe Childs and Tom Tobin

John Sweeney's BBC Panorama Program

Mike Rinder tries to see his son at the Ft Harrison

Jenny Linson and Co at LAX

Transcript of the "Parking Lot Incident"
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August 18 Episode 4: Scientology’s War on a Holocaust Survivor (Paulette Cooper)

Leah and Mike talk with Paulette Cooper, a journalist who became the object of the single largest Fair Game campaign in history. She was framed, sued, smeared, spied on and harassed. And ultimately vindicated when the FBI raided scientology and uncovered their secret operations.

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Mike Rinder's blog

The blog post that goes with this podcast contains numerous links to articles that expand upon the discussion with Paulette

"Racket Exposed" -- R2-45

Hubbard’s directive to use R2-45 (shooting someone in the head with a .45 pistol)

R2-45 Wikipedia entry

A full description of R2-45

Jokers and Degraders

The Hubbard bulletin concerning joking in scientology

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Operation Freakout

One of the scientology “operations” that was carried out against Paulette Cooper with the objective of getting her incarcerated in a mental institution.

Forged Bomb Threat

One of the forged bomb threats scientology created to get Paulette indicted.

Why Do Scientologists Lie?

The writings of Hubbard that explain why scientologists lie

Operation Snow White

The Wikipedia entry on Snow White — the plan to infiltrate enemies of scientology

August 11 Episode 3: Scientology’s War on The Media (with Richard Behar)

Award-winning investigative journalist Richard Behar — author of Time magazine’s shocking cover story, “The Thriving Cult of Greed and Power,” which ignited scientology’s 10 year Fair Game assault on him — talks about Fair Game and the recent controversy over VP hopeful Karen Bass’ statements about scientology.

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The Thriving Cult of Greed and Power

The May 6, 1991 Time cover story by Rich Behar

The prophet and profits of Scientology

Behar’s 1986 Forbes article

Scientology Ruthlessly Hararassed Reporters (including Me)

Behar’s 2020 Forbes article

CNN: Targeted by Scientology

Rich Behar interviewed on CNN when Going Clear premiered on HBO

The Story Time Couldn't Tell

The first article from the scientology conspiracy theory booklet

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August 4 Episode 2: The Welfare Check

When a family member who was never a scientologist attempted to conduct a welfare check on her uncle, the former scientology President, Heber Jentzsch —
who reports say is sick, being tortured and has not been seen in public for over 10 years — she immediately became the target of Fair Game. She tells the story to Leah and Mike.

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Heber Jentsch's Niece Welfare Check on Her Uncle
Letter from Heber to Tammy Clark
Riverside County Sheriff Report
Report cont'd
Report cont'd
Report cont'd
Report cont'd
Lawyer Azrael Letter
RCSO Response
Hubbard Policy on Private Investigators
PI Rebecca Dobkin
July 28 Episode 1: Scientology Deaths and Suicides

What does scientology teach about illness, disease, depression and death. No surprise, it’s unconventional.

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Scientology Deaths and Suicidestology

See this blog post for an analysis and more detail about scientology beliefs and practices

L. Ron Hubbard on Cancer

See this blog post for more detail.

Dianetics cures

Hubbard’s claims for curing disease and preventing colds in Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health.

Auditing eradicates cancer

L. Ron Hubbard claim in his book A History of Man.

Leukemia treated by Dianetics

Hubbard claims “at least 8 cases” had been treated with Dianetics after medicine “gave up.”

Hubbard on Doctors

Hubbard equates “medicos” with monkeys who “monkey around” and make things worse.

July 21 Podcast #0 When Scientology Declares You Fair Game

Leah and Mike describe Fair Game, update on things that have happened since the end of the Aftermath Series and what will be covered in future episodes.

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Fair Game Policy Letter

Hubbard’s policy dictating how scientologists are to treat those declared “SP”.

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Fair Game Cancellation

The “cancellation” is the use of the term because it causes “bad public relations” but NO CHANGE in how enemies are to be treated.

HCO Ethics Order Racket Exposed

Hubbard directing the use of process R2-45 (shooting in the head with a .45 caliber revolver) on Suppressive Persons (SP’s). These people are “enemies of mankind, the planet and all life.”

Critics of Scientology

Hubbard decrees anyone who criticizes scientology has crimes — “Embezzled funds, moral lapses, a thirst for young boys — sordid stuff.”

Critics of Scientology p.2

Hubbard says: “Act completely confident that those crimes exist. Because they do.”