Episode 71: Listener Questions #10

January 4 Episode 71: Listener Questions #10

We start 2022 with one of our favorites — more Listener Questions. We cover a wide scope of topics, from Fair Game campaign tactics to preserving Hubbard’s “legacy” on stainless steel plates in titanium capsules in nuclear-bomb-proof vaults and the embarrassing “We Stand Tall” song video…

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"Preservation of the Tech"

Scientology is so proud of the activities of Church of Spiritual Technology (CST) to preserve the tech they have a fully dedicated video on ScientologyTV expounding on the brilliance of their program.

What is CST?

Some less hypey information about CST

"We Stand Tall"

The infamous scientology “music video” featuring David Miscavige

SNL parody

The brilliant SNL parody of We Stand Tall

Hubbard on curing cancer
Wiki on Scientology Controversies
Wiki on Fair Game
Judges on Scientology
Wiki on Gabe Cazares


  • Alyse says:

    Love you both Lee Lee and Mikey!! Question: Is it possible that Scientology has a recruitment process similar to the Jehovah’s Witnesses. They (JWs) will read obituaries and find the family members of those who died and try to recruit them when they are at a low point in their lives. Is it possible that Scientologists work as court clerks at family and divorce courts and give information to parishioners to pray on women who are divorced or single Moms to bring them into The Church?

  • Brian E. says:

    Where do we post our questions for the next listener questions episode? And thank you for the work that you do!

    • Mike Rinder says:

      You can put them here or on my blog mikerindersblog.org

      • Benjamin Edens says:

        Here’s a question for the podcast.

        Most religions in the world have apologists that will engage in scholarly debates with apologists of different faiths. Has there ever been any scientologist apologists willing to debate theology with someone of another faith, and if not, why not?

      • Vivian E. says:

        Why is David Miscavige the leader of Scientology and not Pat Broeker?

  • Tim says:

    Another great episode, Leah & Mike! Thank you for taking the time to answer my question this episode and continuing to educate us all.

    I’m sure you’re aware of Tony Ortega’s recent reporting from a Scientology insider. Any thoughts as to why Scientology is undertaking these utterly insane actions to prevent the spread of COVID-19 at their orgs? Toxic “decon” spray, requiring Sea Org members with no symptoms to isolate themselves indefinitely, etc? It makes no sense based on what we’ve learned about how COVID spreads. We know Scientology is NUTS, and as Leah reminds us, they follow LRH policy to the letter. LRH couldn’t have written a policy to fight the current pandemic, so what gives? They have to be making their staff miserable. Leah, from a parishioner’s perspective, do you think this nonsense filters down and impacts the average Scientologist?

  • Kelly Gregory says:

    Will you consider doing a show regarding the Hasidic Jewish community and their fair game like treatment of those that leave? I was very saddened to see so many similarities to Scientology in the doc “One of Us”. Also, new drinking game- drink every time smile says “blah, blah, blah!”

  • Justin Krasowski says:

    Love you guys!!!! ❤️ ❤️ ❤️. I would love to help infiltrate and take down Scientology with you. Feel free and reach out anytime

  • Stacie Y says:

    Still love all the questions AND yes…. your insights to all the questions. So I have been watching the stories on Weinstein, Epstein and Raniere. Seems to be the key in bringing down these horrible abusive psycopaths who feel they are untouchable. Power seems to corrupt completely and Shelly has been abolished so Ihave doubts he has beer a monk. Has anyone come out saying David Miscavage is sexually abusive? He allows abuse everywhere else, so… is that the door to investigate ? He’s not a saint!!!! Can’t help but think that could be a way to get him out. Historically the law will step in on religions on sexual abuse to anyone in the organization .

  • Rachel Dollar says:

    Happy New Year’s to all the podcast cast and crew!

    During the hiatus I revisited previously aired podcasts and Aftermath episodes. As a non Scientologist, I forgot that there are other OT levels that have yet to be released, and it got me thinking about this age of technological misinformation. With the rise of “deep fake” videos and editing technology, would Miscavage digitally resurrect LRH and literally put words in his mouth to reengage interest in the organization?

    So glad you both are back with real new material 🙂

  • Jane Hall says:

    With more and more people publicly speaking out against Scientology, what goes into determining whether or not they are fair gamed?

  • John Craine says:

    I have a question for the next Q&A episode: What do you guys think of Paul Thomas Anderson’s The Master? I didn’t realise how close it was to LRH’s life until I read Bare Faced Messiah. I saw an interview where Paul Thomas Anderson denied that it was critical of Scientology and said it seems to work for some people which was very disappointing to me.

  • Jenny says:

    This is completely unrelated to this episode. But have you thought of doing an episode On purity culture, like the Duggar’s and their strict religious upbringing. I find it so interesting and sad.

  • Cortney Smith says:

    Hi Leah & Mike,
    I listen to the podcast weekly and have watched The Aftermath. One thing that I have never seen addressed is what happens to Scientologists after death? I know that they believe that they are coming back, so is there a funeral or any type of service? This is morbid – but what happens to their bodies? Are they buried, cremated and what happens to the remains? I’ve don’t recall ever seeing a Scientology cemetery or memorial. Is there any memorial at all for who they were and what they did as people? Or do they just sadly disappear from peoples lives? Thanks so much.

  • Joan says:

    It’s my understanding Scientology believes when bad things happen it’s the person’s fault either in this life or as a result of a past life. With this theory how is it that
    David Miscavige can blame people for problems and then beat them up? Aren’t all of his issues as a result of his bad behavior in this life or the past?

  • Kellie S says:


    I finally found the video that I watched when I visited a Scientology Church in Mesa Arizona back in 2002.

    I was writing a paper for my world religions class and I was intrigued by Scientology because of Tom Cruise and my mom telling me it was a cult. I went to visit the church and came back to my class convincing more classmates to come with me a second time because it was just so crazy.

    They made us do some weird exercise where we sat down in chairs and they said find the right wall. We were really confused but saw that they were looking at the right wall so we looked at the right wall and they said good, find the left wall. And we watched them as they turned to look to the left wall so we looked at the left wall and they said good. Then they said look at the ceiling so we all looked up at the ceiling. I was so confused like what the hell are we doing?! Good she says. Find the floor, good, look at the right wall, look at the left wall, look at the ceiling, look at the space behind your eyelid. When she said that we all started laughing because all at the same time our heads went back a little as we were trying to do just that.

    At the end they asked if they could show us the 30-minute video so we went into this tiny little movie theater and the last minute, of the link that I posted, where he says you could jump off a bridge or blow your brains out, we all looked at each other like what in the world and we ran to our cars never to return.

    Well since then I have been following Scientology stuff and I really absolutely loved the aftermath series. It was fascinating to watch but at the same time just absolutely gut wrenching and beyond heartbreaking. To me I feel that I am able to see a lot of cult like behavior in many things. Big Pharma specifically. Really been enjoying the podcast. Appreciate what you guys are doing.

    Just a fan

  • Sassy H says:

    I was just wondering, Whenever David leaves his body (i am sorry if that is the wrong terminology) Who will take over the church? Is Tom Cruise or John Travolta being groomed to be the next leader?

  • Krist says:

    I have an uncle who lives in Clearwater FL. He has never been close to our family. I am almost 44 years old, and I have seen him 3 times. I noticed in the past few years he has deleted his Facebook account. In listening to your podcast I think more and more thar he may be in scientology. Do you thunk that he would tell me if I asked him?

  • Freddy says:

    Hello, Leah and Mike. I’ve been following your podcast as well as the Netflix series.
    I wanted you to know that the question of LRH’s reincarnation has been solved. He has returned as a toilet. Can you imagine David Miscavige or Tom Cruise giving that some thought?
    Keep up the great work bringing down this awful cult.

  • Courtney H. says:

    Hey Mike and Leah!
    Question: Since Scientologist believe that they can cure themselves from all sickness, how has COVID affected their numbers and do you think they follow any safety mandates?

  • Colleen Adam says:

    Hi guys, I listen and watch everything you both do, and you do a great job, I was wondering how do your kids deal with what you both do and what you have been through, and people who get out with there young kids. Love from Scotland

  • Rachel D says:

    Hi Mike and Leah! Thank you for such a great show.

    Leah, I have been a fan for a long time, and read Troublemaker in hardcover. I was wondering if you would answer some more personal questions that I’ve been wondering. I knowt hat for Scientologists, there is a lot of pressure to get people “in” and incentives to recruit new members. Did you try (or face dicsipline) around recruiting castmates to Scientology? Was it strange to act in scenes like you were part of a different religion? Finally, did you bring Angelo into Scientology, and was it hard to convince him to leave with you?

    Thank you for all you do!

  • julia says:

    A question for the next Q&A-
    Do you guys ever fantasize about how it will all come crashing down? I mean, the end of the church.
    I have never been in scientology, but from listening so much I now often have different fantasies about how that will happen, like someone on the inside will steal some important documents and hand them over or somehow record something.
    Just wondering how much you think about it, what you fantasize and doesn’t it drive your mind insane when you do?
    Maybe this is too personal for you to talk about, in that case, sorry for asking 🙂

  • Danielle Nichole says:

    Hey there
    Just found the podcast and loved the show. I was listening today to another podcast that was addressing the friendship of LRH with Jack Parsons and their following of Alistair Crowley. The story showed significant comparisons to the OTO, including the ranks/levels you climb within the group. Not sure if you ever touched on this in the podcast but would be very interested to hear more from you. Thanks!

  • BethG says:

    I’m catching up and just listened to this episode last night, I cried so hard. Mike I am so extremely sorry for your loss. And Leah you are not alone my 11th grader isn’t even going off to college, they are planning on trade school and I have to much younger kids but I cry thinking about him graduating.

  • Vanessa I Jordan says:

    Have you read Jenna Miscavage’s book? Might you have her on the podcats?

  • Rebecca D. says:

    I was just doing a bit of Scientology googling and saw something about a “pregnancy assist”. I don’t think I’ve ever heard you talk about that. What exactly is it and Leah, is this something you had to go through?

  • Lauren W says:

    I have a question for your next Q&A. Does Scientology have a plan in place for someone to take over as leader when or if something happens to David Miscavage? Is he grooming his potential successor to take over? You guys discussed how he forced his way to become to leader after LRH passed. So I wasn’t sure if someone else might do the same. Or if he scared everyone so much that they wouldn’t consider it. Thank you Mike and Leah for doing all you do!

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