Episode 66: Dr. Willy Rice Pastor of Calvary Baptist Clearwater

November 16 Episode 66: Dr. Willy Rice Pastor of Calvary Baptist Clearwater

Leah and Mike welcome Dr. Willy Rice, Senior Pastor at Calvary Baptist Church in Clearwater to the podcast. Willy has been one of the few community leaders who has taken a strong, public stance against the abuses of scientology. We talk about the influence of scientology in the community and the lie that you can a Christian and a scientologist.

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The infamous OT VIII document

[T]he historic Jesus was not nearly the sainted figure has been made out to be. In addition to being a lover of young boys and men, he was given to uncontrollable bursts of temper and hatred…

Can Scientologists be Christians or Jews Too?
L. Ron Hubbard on Christianity
"I'm a Christian and I'm also a Scientologist"
Scientology, Christianity and the IRS
Scientology Briefing

One of the briefings prepared by Willy for his congregation and other Christian Leaders

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A Christian Response to Scientology

Another briefing

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Going Clear

Lawrence Wright’s brilliant book

Stefani Hutchinson's on Ray Cassano

Scientology Ray Cassano speaking publicly as a member of the Clearwater Downtown Development Board

Hubbard's Public Image Policy Letter
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Price List for Flag
Hubbard on God


  • Rebecca Mount says:

    I have been in the Christian faith my entire life. I’ve seen the good, the bad, and the ugly in different representations of what it “looks” like to be a follower of Jesus, and Dr. Willy Rice is the real deal! I’ve been following Leah’s story since the first news broke that she left Scientology. The stories of Scientology’s abusive practices have always been hard to hear, and then hearing that LRH promoted such lies about Christianity and other religions is also heartbreaking. I have and will continue to pray for you, Mike and Leah, as you continue your brave and beautiful work to help cult survivors. I’m currently in school getting my master’s in clinical social work, so I understand the call in wanting to help people in vulnerable populations. I do not see any cult activity where I live, but your show and podcast has given me the information needed if I ever do meet someone needing help in that area.

    Thank you for leading the charge in this important work!

  • K. Wright says:

    I feel compelled to disagree with you that what makes a cult is how the cult treats you when you try to leave. In today’s show, you stress that Christian churches are not cults because they don’t try to control you and because they are full of “unconditional love.” The reason you feel that way is because you are not gay. It drives me crazy when straight people talk about the love and acceptance they feel from Christian churches because you have no idea how badly Christians and Christian churches treat gay people. Christian churches use money and political influence to attempt to deny gay people the same rights as straight people. Gay people are ostracized and harassed in Christian churches. Gay people are shunned and rejected by their family members, often at the direction of church leaders. I know you mean well and that you are accepting of all people. However, I would say the definition of a cult must include how a “church” treats people and what kind of political influence a “church” tries to take over the lives of people. A lot of gay people have had traumatic experiences that are the direct result of “loving” “churches,” and I don’t think your podcast reflects the type of hatred that “loving churches” direct toward people who don’t fit into a narrow mold.

  • Sarah says:

    I Loved this episode!! Pastor Willy spoke perfectly to what it means to know Jesus.
    Most importantly though this was great way for you guys to expose that Scientology and Christianity are not and will never be in the same realm of religion and further promotes the truth about Scientology and how it is so far from the truth of being an actual religion ! Tax exemption is and will one day soon be revoked from this horrible organization.

  • Teresa S says:

    I love your podcast. I just want to comment that Leah frequently comments about the Christian faith or the Catholic faith. I wanted to bring up that Catholics ARE Christians. We are a denomination of Christianity just like those who practice in various Protestants churches are. Christians believe that Jesus is the Savior and believe he is the son of God, the Christ. Protestants do not have the Pope or believe that Jesus is present in the Eucharist. We are all Christians. Some denominations believe other things that Catholics don’t believe, but again we’re all Christians. Love your show. You are both amazing people who are true heroes. Keep up the good fight.

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